Bernard Pace, a former clerk in Austin Gatt's secretariat, said he had met Ray Farrugia after the scandal broke, however does not remember what was discussed.
He was being interviewed before the Public Accounts Committee, which was debating the inquiry by the National Audit Office into Enemalta's oil procurement policy.
Minister Owen Bonnici and the witness clashed during the session, with the minister questioning the truth behind his answers several times.
Mr Pace said he knew Ray Farrugia (one of the Farrugia brothers) from a young age, and that anyone who was active within the Hamrun social calendar, as he was, knew the Farrugias.
Mr Pace explained that during the 2003 and 2008 elections, he (Pace) had accompanied Dr Austin Gatt during house visits and helped during events.
He stressed that he did not know who handled the financing of his campaign.
After 2008, he took on a more senior position
He did not recall calling up Ray Farrugia on the day the scandal broke.
Mr Farrugia had called him up, after the oil scandal broke in the news in 2013, to meet. He accepted.
He said that they met in an office in Hamrun, and that Chris Farrugia (Ray's nephew) was present.
Minister Bonnici repeatedly asked for details of the conversation, however Mr Pace remained adamant, and said that he did not remember. He did, however, remember phoning Claudio Grech to join the meeting, after his name was mentioned in conversation. He did not remember what was discussed while Mr Grech was present.
He said that Mr Grech was a candidate and he wanted to introduce the two.
He did not see a problem with going to meet Mr Farrugia. "I can appreciate that he was going through a difficult time, and that went to see how he is".
He also does not remember discussing a possible news release at the meeting, which would have tried to help distance the minister from the situation.
Mr Pace said he did not remember notifying former Minister Gatt of the meeting.
Minister Bonnici asked him whether he knew Godfrey Scicluna (former Head of the Security Service), to which he said he knew of him, but never held any form of dialogue with the man.
When he was asked if any documents were ever given to him by Mr Scicluna, he said no.
This goes against to what has been alleged in the past, that Godfrey Scicluna, who allegedly received an emails that detailed corruption at Enemalta, passed them on to Mr Pace.